Thread: What makes a good IM? Ethics, skill, training?

IMO learning the theories, diplomas, etc. don't make you a successful IM'er. You need to start doing things and learn from your mistakes. Of course you learn from others, but they can only tell you how it works in their specific market or how they've reached success. It doesn't mean you can just copy what someone else does and become successful aswell.

You don't need a degree to become a good marketer. And common sense won't always help either. Some basic knowledge is required, so you know what step to take and what to do next.
You need to profile yourself in your market and your prospects will decide if you're the best or a "me too" wannabee.

I've learned most from watching what others do, trial and error, good times and setbacks...

Andre

Good times and setbacks. I think the setbacks are what a person learns from the most. Yeah, you learn from the good, but not as much. The setbacks are also what causes many IM's to lose hope and move on to other areas. Maybe a balance of having the certifications or diplomas and the experience is a good idea? It just doesn't fit in with many people looking for the rewards and profits asap. It all takes time, whether you're learning, or doing or both, and this is one of the important facts that people need to know about IM.

The two bits of wisdom that I gave to my daughter when she turned 18 were:

If you spend a dollar it is gone, if you invest a dollar it will come back to you.

Education is always expensive (and I am very well educated). You can spend the money on a formal education attaining a degree or certification, or you can dive in and make your mistakes. Either way is going to cost something.

Either Money or time, or both. It's worth it if you think about the amount you learn from it in some way IMO. When do you or can you call yourself a professional? Is there some sort of rule that you work with, marking milestones as you go?

I would probably say training and skill are the most important. Someone who has experience and knows what they are doing is definitely the way to go. Ethics and talent are also important but not as important in my opinion.

Skills is most required to be a successful IM. Ethics are there for long term and lasting success for SEO and Training is just an initiative to get aware from essentials of IM but it can never help in such a dynamic and continuously changing environment of internet marketing.

Definitely skills provide the best results and a skilled person who has experience with positive results would be ethical at least to the client if not in his personal life. In business there's nothing personal its sportsmanship, don't take it by heart. Also having at least a certification would count as added knowledge and having a degree would be a huge bonus, however there's no boundaries for knowledge and people are very successful without having a degree or a cert. It all comes back down to skills, if you have the skills you can excel from the one having knowledge (degree) but not the skills to use his knowledge. But all in all education is important at least it brings discipline in life and work.

Skills, interest to learn and training can make Internet marketing more successful as a person must be willing to learn new concepts to keep in pace with the emerging new trends.

Originally Posted by Phoenyx

What do you think? Is it about training, skill, talent, your ethics?

Hi,
In my point of view your skills are more important thing in your self grooming section. Because your ethics are such a thing that can not be change because these can be inherited but you may improve your other capabilities if you have positive skills. I mean your nature and behavior is very important to make you good that become from your skills of understanding it.

Training is just for giving yourself more reputable person... sometime people are judge on how much the person go for training... more training more knowledge.But inside your mind who knows... you need to develop the skill by yourself. Eventhough you go for hundred of training session but without implement what you have learnt.. you are nothing to people

Exactly. Sometimes its not what you know, but what you do with that knowledge. Someone that has an immense knowledge about anything, but does not use it every day, eventually forgets it, and would have to learn it all over again. I've noticed that people learn more by doing, rather than taking an example from a page. It gives them that experience because they see the results first hand of what they are doing, and not because some lecturer told them its going to happen that way.

Discipline...yes. You have to have control over what you do and when you do it.

Make sure you plan every step of your project (time control...not time management), start on the urgent things first and then the important things.
Finish your project before starting on something else...that's where discipline is needed for most IM'ers.

Best is to learn by doing it...not by constantly looking for new techniques or solutions.

Andre

It is very hard to discipline yourself... sometimes it takes one week so as to be able to have mood in doing IM things.. once you leave your IM work for a long time, then you wanna start over again, it just like you need to remove a heavy enormous stone on your head

True, but a lot of time, when you are online, you do IM work without even realizing it. Chatting on forums, commenting on blogs etc. So sometimes discipline isn't all that hard. It's when you have to continuously repeat the process with every new site that you start looking for ways to automate your campaigns.

Then again...you're only limited in automating your campaigns.
Especially when it comes to content building and gaining credibility.
I want people to read what I am saying...not someone else's words.
The best content is with a personal touch...

The only content I woud probably outsource is product creation.
I'm quite done with article marketing, so that saves me a lot of time I can use for more important things...

Andre

why not have all of them?
i think all of the three things is important,
ethics to others will get good result from search engine.
skill is the basic to win.
training help you stronger and stronger.

Originally Posted by semwinner

why not have all of them? i think all of the three things is important, ethics to others will get good result from search engine.
skill is the basic to win. training help you stronger and stronger.

The end goal is to have them all. What and where to begin to achieve this, is the question. You need a certain amount of knowledge to start off with, so training would be the obvious answer, training and doing, this gives you a reputation, couple that with good ethics, and you have a winning combination.

Basic knowledge is important, but the best way to learn what works and what doesn't (it's different for everyone or every market) is trial and error.
That'll give you the experience.

Never stop learning...never stop doing.
But learn oly the things you NEED for what YOU are doing online.

Andre

yes i never stop learning, almost everyday i read about IM, knowledge is there, but sometimes need appropriate time to take action according to that knowledge and also determination, because when you try something and in the end you got nothing you feels like you wanna quit

That happens a lot of the time. And it can seriously get you down and out and make you feel that your campaign is worthless because its not working the way you want it to be. That is when you should realize that things don't always work out exactly the way you plan, but that doesn't mean that you can't try. You then look at your campaign, see where you can improve, look at what works and what doesn't and adapt. And remember that Rome wasn't built in a day, but with a lot of hard work each day, it became an empire.