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    Quote Originally Posted by wink0r View Post
    I don't know if they have a plugin for forums of any kind, but Akismet can be used for comment spam on at least one article directory software as well as blogs. There is a need so they may be branching out.
    And on forums, it is used here by this same mod

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    Ah cool. I did not know that.
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    Aksimet is not that crucial for us, because we have things that will prevent that obvious SPAM aksiment is taking care of.
    What is crucial here is SFS database of spammer IPs and emails, this is worth millions for us

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    There I can agree. SFS is a goldmine. I'm still learning about it all, and it gets more and more interesting. Especially learning about IP's.
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    Unfortunately for me, the other forum where I manually approve applications apparently only used it for a week or two - free trial maybe? I am back to manually banning several IPs and email addresses a day. The break was nice while it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wink0r View Post
    Unfortunately for me, the other forum where I manually approve applications apparently only used it for a week or two - free trial maybe? I am back to manually banning several IPs and email addresses a day. The break was nice while it lasted.
    Only a week or two? Yowzers. So you would then have to check each IP against SFS before approving them, and then still have to end up banning them if they don't follow forum rules? Maybe you could speak to them and find out if they could use the mod permanently.
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    We only had one spammer that slipped through last year. Our mods are not very busy there, but I appreciate that they check every day anyway. The whole forum is not very busy anymore so it gets to be a bit boring to open the forum and see 0 new posts on most days. This is a forum for a WYSIWYG web editor and between WP and Facebook there is not as much activity in that area now. Really most that end up using the editor would be better off slapping up a WP site.

    The editor and the forum are where I learned html and css for the most part. It has been a great value to me, but no longer as necessary as when I started putting up sites as a hobby.

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    Ah no, WP is popular, but its not good to see when they make other programs less popular. It sounds interesting though.
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    Facebook is probably the bigger culprit. Many of the people that used the editor were putting up personal sites and Facebook fills their need without worrying about hosting or FTP.

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    That sucks. Maybe there is a way to build interest again.
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    I have thought about adding some categories, but would not do that without consulting with the team and I haven't gotten around to that yet.

    Are you ready for your history lesson? If so, Welcome to KompoZer 101.

    KompoZer is an outgrowth of the old NVu project that was part of the Lindows Linux distro. Lindows was sued by MicroSoft because of the name and became Linspire before it dwindled and died. The developer that had worked on it continued development but the NVu name was not available to him so he released his updated work as KompoZer. It is a freeware project so produces little, if any, income for him. The software is built on the Gecko code base (think Mozilla) and that project is continuing. FF is also built on the Gecko code base. About a year and a half ago, while between paying gigs, the developer began updating the software using a more recent version of the Gecko code base. The main reason for the effort is that the older version of KompoZer is not compatible with the newer distros of Linux, although it still works fine in Windows through W7. Before he was finished with that update Gecko had another major version change and he wants to base any further development of KompoZer on the latest Gecko version. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the developer has aquired a wife and child, so his first priority must be putting food on the table. I believe he currently has a position with the Mozilla Foundation working on one of their ongoing projects.

    The founder of the NVu/KompoZer forum is a gentleman farmer from England. His health has not been good and he has been largely inactive the last year+. I think that he founded the user group because he had interest in the software and using it for another project. He was always in the background as long as I have been involved there, although he visited the forum and kept up with things daily back then. I am basically the defacto admin there. The forum is largely inactive but the faithful still stick their heads in regularly and any questions that come up are generally answered in short order.

    There are generally 2 - 5 genuine registrations a day and, typically, 2 - 3 times that number in bot registrations. Many of the registrations are from people just looking for a profile link, but they can't fill out the profile until they are approved, and many of those never even return to update the profile, thus an exercise in futility. The forum software also does not reliably send a notice of account activation so there are some that have approved accounts that do not realize they could log in. There is a note in the sig for the sign-up email saying that if they are not notified of activation within 48 hours to attempt to log in, but many don't read the sig note. I found the place for the email sig a few months ago and updated it and that has reduced, but not stopped, the emails to the site admin address complaining of not being approved.

    The two areas that I have considered for expansion are:
    1. Since several of the recent users' questions have been about formatting code for ebay or Craigslist, a section on how to use KompoZer to format code to include on other sites.

      Back in my Squiddo days I had one lens on how to use KompoZer to format code to improve a lens. That was my most active lens. When I got into WP I built a lens about using KompoZer to format code for WP. When I tried to submit that lens it was caught in their spam filter. I followed all the links offered in the rejection and the major links from those pages and saw nothing that I could relate to the lens I had just built. I put it in for review. Then about a week later I got a notification the the other lens was to be locked as spam with the same links as reasons. That is when I deleted all my lenses and profile from Squiddo. That lens drew more search traffic to their site than my other lenses combined. I had one lens that I considered spammy, but it never tripped the filters.

    2. Since many of those that do use the software are completely unaware of SEO I have also considered putting in a section on site promotion that could, at least, make them aware of some of the basics. This is a bit off topic for the forum, but I think that it could provide some value to many users. It would be easier to have a successful site if some of those things were known and applied going in.

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    I think I ave actually been there. I have used Kompozer once or twice. Isn't it a WYSIWYG editor? hmmmm There is still so much you could do with that though. SEO, coding in general, Its free software though. lol People love things like that. The only reason I stopped using it was because at that stage I was still learning and it confused me to an extent (only to be outconfused b a dreamweaver trial not too long after that. lol) I'm still learning, but for now, I haven't worked with any real html. Just what I deal with when I'm working in wordpress.
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    Isn't it a WYSIWYG editor?
    Yes, but we encourage people to learn a bit more and not do things like drag'n'drop that produce some nasty code. Used properly KompoZer will produce good clean code. The css editor is wizard driven and makes producing a good stylesheet easy, and it is real time so you see the effects as you make the adjustments.

    I have always been inclined to spend the time to learn a competent freeware program rather than spend on a paid application and still have to learn to use it. Dreamweaver is a good program with nice features, but many people that use it don't understand coding. They use it like a word processor or graphics program, and Dreamweaver is perfectly capable of producing some nasty code when used in that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wink0r View Post
    Dreamweaver is perfectly capable of producing some nasty code when used in that way.
    lol been there done that. In the beginning, when I tried it out, I was groaning and moaning at it more times than you could imagine.
    To et back to the topic though, I can understand now why these tools wouldn't be used on the forum. But maybe if there was a way to get it all going again. You do still get new members though, so having that system would still be a goldmine.
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    Do you also filter all un-used Accounts???

    You know that many people only register to forums to place an Backlink at "your Homepage URL" in Profile.

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    No, because I don't want to delete members accounts here.
    Members can't post links or edit profiles until they reach certain level,
    so after they contributed to the community I'm OK with them having a link or two back to their homepage, why not?

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    Hmmm...I though I had it covered completely...

    This is an awesome plugin ! Thanks !

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