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Well, in that case, will the bookmarks created be left for manual indexing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemanja
Since the network being a private one, I cannot even have the links to which my URL is submitted ... so that I can use link indexers like 'One hour indexing'.
From my perspective it is better that links are "found" naturally without any pings or forceful way of getting them indexed. These sites are visited almost non stop by googlebot,Quote:
Originally Posted by salman
so it is actually the same, in other words dont' worry google knows about them.
Nemanja is correct. It is better to just let the links get eaten up natural without force feeding them. He has picked a list of sites that are already being crawled and indexed very quick by The GoogleQuote:
Originally Posted by Nemanja
Bookmarks campaign for a certain URL has been successfully completed, if I resubmit the same URL, will the system submit it to a new list of sites?
On public network it should use different sites, but public network is no more supported, for the reasons already explained few posts back.Quote:
Originally Posted by salman
On private network it mostly will not use new sites, but you can resubmit and you should see results from it, for instance I resubmit my pages few times in every few months.
Hello nemanja, i am very excited to know you are going to implement this kind of 'another private network' that will have report links available. I knew that some people which is i think do not have very great knowledge of SEO will blast Tier 2 links (poor links).. but at some point.. people who have decent knowledge of SEO will use properly.. maybe just point to quality T2 links only (web 2.0 with great content)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemanja
I don't know how you are going to implement but i think.. you can have the tools for both kind of people... first tools.. it is just does not matter how people are gonna use or abuse it with poor T2 links..i mean they are at their own risk.. as long as they pay to use it.... and the 2nd tools maybe the people who are very properly used for the tools.. maybe you can limit or interview people on how they are going to use.. if they abuse.. because of T2 links come from poor links or thousand of wasted links.. you can simply banned them.... i knew it is very hard to detect someone or some people that will abuse the tools.. i don't know if there are some sort of software or mechanism that can detect unusual pattern of T2 links
However, the main point is.. i really support the idea to have links in report available... i'm just giving some suggestion...it is up to you to decide how the tools are going to operate.... but i hope in the future or soon the tool will made available to this forum
I personally think that.. if you have good T1 properties (not spammy site, good DA/PA and all that) then the simple idea to have good chances of getting higher in search engine is depend on 3 things.. first is to make sure your T1 is stick or do not get remove... second your T1 content is relevant and unique and also indexed.. and the third, constantly or randomly make your T1 links popular by pointing out to good Tier2 links
All the best Nemanja.. thank you for providing us a good tool
I've written long post and my session expired and lost everything... :)
Thanks for your long input Fran.
I understand what you are saying but it would be very hard to create such tool and will eventually cost to much and won't be used,
that said I think I will make it with live links and we will see what will happen and will go and adjust from there.
But we have also Extreme Wikis which are almost exactly what you are saying in terms of premium tool/backlinks not used by many users (unfortunately) and where I can control some 2T link.
BTW this tool will be updated in some near future to be more user friendly + some more features.
I would just like to add that bookmarks wouldn't be enough as 1T links for some harder medium and high competition keywords, you need some other types of links as well for that and more tiers also.
But for low and lower medium keywords they can be good to rank all your inner pages and then if needed resubmit few times in some months or even a year time period.
As you may know I use them in my amazon sites to rank all my posts and many are in top SERPs, then if they are on the 2nd or 3rd page I resubmit until they get to 1st page.
Now I will start to test with only few wikis because I don't want to over do it with links and link strength and lose my rankings for some harder keywords I have. Then if needed will add more wikis and other type of links as well.
Hello Nemanja.. sorry to hear that your long post cannot be saved..
The extreme wikis is good.. but the last time i purchased it.. (long time ago maybe 2-3 years back).. there are so many link loss in term of poor Tier1 wikis.. some got deleted.. and only a few still standing for 2-3 years.. that was very good
Here another question i would like to ask
1. Talking about the resubmit thing.. what is the best approach? do you think that is it good to make new content or unique content on the bookmark description every time you resubmit?
2. I did not read the long post yet (will do) about the amazon experiment that you been doing right now.. so are you relying 100% on your tools to rank all the post or mix with other types of links.. and if yes.. is that come from private network also?
3. I found out some seo services that blend in web 2.0 links with their private network... then i made myself some test or just an experiment about the web 2.0 links (wordpress, blog.com, weebly, yola, etc).. when you have good unique content on those links.. and the links also a bit older.. then you pointing also to good Tier2 links.. it will give some impact or boost to rank.. not much.. but at least it show improvement and i can see the rank rises.. what do you think about those kind of links?
Wikis now mostly consist of only my private network of wikis, which where there from the start :),
but I didn't want people to know about them existing at all, so these sites don't get compromised. This way they are going few years strong now so they are working and working great :)
That is why I'm suggesting wikis all the time for people who are professionally in this business or need some help in ranking some medium or/and harder keywords.
1) It is individual thing, if you need better rankings after first submission, you just resubmit and so on, I resubmit also after few months even if I have good rankings after first submission is done. So there is no rule to it, you need to test it and see what is working best for particular site.
2) Yes, it is great journey and nice read, but shame I don't have much more time for it. Basically I have ALL copied auto generated content and auto generated social signals and links on all blogs and one blog is getting me around $110-150 per month, so or I'm immune to pandas, penguins and alike :D or these animals are most of the time just a big scary wolf from a child story.
Yes I'm relaying only on my tools, currently I'm using MM for social signals, and IMT bookmarks for links and now as I said I will start using wikis in smaller amounts for harder keywords. I also use some pinterest auto post script to pin all my pictures. That is all.
3) Sure, these are all good methods, the more diversify your link profile the better, also more tiers the better. But not always many and strong links are good. On new sites or sites with week link profiles you go easy first then scale it up as time passes.
Don't get me wrong you can do it all the way as well, but then you are risking potential disaster if you don't do it right or you don't have resources to do it right. For example if you suddenly in one month generate massive links then what google expects is to see massive behavioral and social factors increase proportionally , etc.. if not, sure some flags will be raised and the rest will not be so funny.
UPDATE
After many years I've decided to bring back live links in reports in private network :)
So, in detailed report for private network you will find live links to your bookmarks.
Also I did some changes to the tool and planning to do some more.
How come nemanja, won't that possibly compromise the network?
Well there are few things I considered while deciding about it...
Some of my thoughts are... risk is always possible even when it is mostly secured network,
that said there is not much risk currently as it was before and there are few reasons for that.
Not as much users of this tool as there where before, not many competitors(almost none), not as much angry/banned members as before, different network "type"...
So all in all we will see how this will pan out.
That's good approach Nemanja, do you think it is ok if just point it (the bookmark live links) with good T2 like web 2.0 or just some good contextual links? i also think someone or somebody will point it with spamming T2, that's soon someday will jeopardize the link network... but it is great if who ever got those live links do not abuse it with heavy spamming or very poor T2 links
Basically the better T2 links the more powerful your link profile would be which will eventually and hopefully lead to better rankings.
So to answer this, I would diversify T2 links, mix them to get more type of links even small lower quality links, making them more natural.
Yes this is something we can't avoid, but these links will not influence the whole network, because google is ranking pages not websites.
But we will see eventually what will happen, so far these sites where doing great, I'm also curious to find out how will they be doing after this.
That's good thing. But if.. i just said only IF... if you decide to close the live report again in the near future, can you please or select a few people or trusted people that can get the live links report?
I hope in future, just maybe.. the network will grow more bigger into selected niche only... i mean for popular niche only.. like health, technology, home, etc.
I doubt that network will grow bigger, because people like new things and like to go with the trend, so they ditch old tactics for which google made them believe they are bad...
So knowing all that its is very unlikely that people will be using link building tools as they where before, only handful will use them, but eventually it is a good thing, no more masses of competitions :)
@Nemanja - i haven't used social bookmarking tool since last 2 years though i have credits left in my account. Live links looks awesome due to which i think i will give a shot to this. thanks :)
//edited and updated on 6.02.2016
Here are some percentage of anchors I think will work these days:
1) Main/Exact Keywords = 1-3%
2) Partial Match/Keyword Variations = 15-25%(tops)
3) Brand name and your website domain/URL(if you don't have brand name put this: "yourwebsite.com" without quotes) = around 30-40%
4) Exact URL you are promoting = around 20-30%
5) Generic Keywords = around 30%
Sorry but
I review submited urls, but i dont find backlinks to the bookmarks so, all bookmarks tools like majestic, moz, ahref, etc... shown me 0 backlinks and then lost the 'supercharged' surname.
Maybe i wrong?
Many many many ... things have changed since this tool initially launched(I will not go now into details), but name remained the same... Sooo, these are not even actually bookmarks or are they? They are small WP posts on blogs... so you can call them what you like, but that's what is still working for "last" tier links among other stuff... Bookmarks on platforms like pligg etc. are the past at least from my experience...Quote:
Originally Posted by infoasistencia
I use this tool daily for many things, mainly for diversifying link profiles and for boosting some other links and low competing keywords/pages, so dont' worry they do still work, just use them wisely.
But if you need x tier links, use wikis, they are still powerful, now even more as they aged, etc.... but please be careful with them as I said they are powerful so you need to know what you are doing.
Take care :)