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    seoguy is offline IM & SEO Quiet One seoguy is on a distinguished road
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    Exclamation A confused/frustrated guy is finally down on his knees asking for expert advice.

    Hi,

    Let me directly get to the point, I am 'into' the Internet since past 8 years, I've heard people make fortunes (not the ones who advertise to Dupe, but the real money makers.), and have watched others fail and give-up. While I have been watching these phenomenons from the sideline,I have been developing my skillset, in a slow and steady manner. I have taught myself how stuff works and why they work that way.

    Currently My skillset is:
    1. Making Niche websites, can be either Wordpress or xHTML-CSS.
    2. Development of good looking themes, for any platform.
    3. Link Building, Link Wheels, Web 2.0 Submissions
    4. Managing and creating Adwords PPC Campaigns
    5. Expertise in PHP/MySQL for custom coded dynamic website development. (Can also edit and modify existing CMSs and other Platforms)
    6. Email / Brochure designing
    7. Advertisement Banner Designing
    8. Logo creation
    9. Copy-writing - Due to my education in a English background, I have a stronghold over the language and can develop quality content from scratch.
    10. Cloning of Websites = I have several times copied websites selling for high price on marketplaces, and have sold them for $400-$500 each.
    11. Have some experience with CPA, and know how the model works, but never made more than $10 per campaign.

    Alas, while I was developing these skillsets, I never paid attention to making money for myself on the internet, and would like to jump in there. NOW!
    Please advice me a path I should be taking to make a good amount of money keeping the above skills in mind.

    Initially I want to make quick money around 50 bucks a day, while developing other affiliate (clickbank) revenue websites. So that after a month or two, when the clickbank websites start earning, I can get residual income.
    Let me know the exact steps required. I'm ready to invest money that is required to launch a product on CB.

    I welcome anybody interested to partner with me and we can develop quality niche websites, Clickbank review sites, Facebook Traffic websites, Viral content, CPA Content Lockers, or develop a service which can get us monthly fixed revenue.

    Open to suggestions, and please, if you wanna abuse, you are welcome but WILL be ignored.

    Regards,
    SeoGuy!

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    Just remember this: Microsoft didn't become big over-night.

    You must have patience and must commit to your work. You look skillful enough, but if you don't have patience, you won't make much $ out of it.

    So good luck and have patience. Start creating fleet of niche specific websites, put adsense, work on building organic & direct traffic. See the cashflow

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    Cool Thank you! :D

    BlaZe: Thank you for your positive response.
    I forgot to mention that I don't have my Adsense, since it was banned by Google due to traffic by a website which provided Clicks on Adsense for Money. I lost my account even though they claimed that most of their customers accounts don't get banned and only 10-20% do get banned.
    Anyways, the point is that I have no Adsense account, even after I submitted my reconsideration requests 3 times over.
    So, please suggest me an alternative, since opening another Adsense account is of no use as they are detected sooner or later and banned on the spot.

    Hence I was looking towards affiliate marketing / product creation.

    Let me know what you think.

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    $50/day from Clickbank is reachable and you even said you're ready to invest. The question, how much is your budget? I need to know about this so I can determine what the best investment method for you.

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    seoguy is offline IM & SEO Quiet One seoguy is on a distinguished road
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    Hi, I'm ready to invest upto $500 (upto does not mean, I want to invest the whole thing.)
    I will not give this money to anybody seeking investment, BUT, I can invest this money into Clickbank Products and the likes (where I know there is a high probability of getting my money back )

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    The best thing to do is to setup an amazon or clickbank or rapbank affliate site . Target profitable keywords . And hire me up for seo . No i am not joking .

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    Hah... I understand you are not joking, especially when you talk about getting yourself employed :P
    But I think I can manage the SEO part too. I although would need some guidance as to which niche to venture into and what to avoid from experienced product developers.
    Quote Originally Posted by phobia170 View Post
    The best thing to do is to setup an amazon or clickbank or rapbank affliate site . Target profitable keywords . And hire me up for seo . No i am not joking .

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    Quote Originally Posted by seoguy View Post
    Hi, Currently My skillset is:
    1. Making Niche websites, can be either Wordpress or xHTML-CSS.
    2. Development of good looking themes, for any platform.
    3. Link Building, Link Wheels, Web 2.0 Submissions
    4. Managing and creating Adwords PPC Campaigns
    5. Expertise in PHP/MySQL for custom coded dynamic website development. (Can also edit and modify existing CMSs and other Platforms)
    6. Email / Brochure designing
    7. Advertisement Banner Designing
    8. Logo creation
    9. Copy-writing - Due to my education in a English background, I have a stronghold over the language and can develop quality content from scratch.
    10. Cloning of Websites = I have several times copied websites selling for high price on marketplaces, and have sold them for $400-$500 each.
    11. Have some experience with CPA, and know how the model works, but never made more than $10 per campaign.
    Hi there,

    And a fine set of skill sets there, However I can see the problem immediately, which is exactly the same as many webmasters.

    Its mainly all focused on the technical side of building a website which is great if you want to just build websites. Now if you want to make money you need to learn how to make a website that makes money. Because making money requires a different set of skill sets that are far from technical.

    Selling products online is far different than most people imagine, once you learn this you shall be well on your way to success, but it doesn't happen overnight. No matter how good your site is.

    Best of luck

    Mr P
    Travel the world and live the dream...Work Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr P Panther View Post
    Hi there,

    And a fine set of skill sets there, However I can see the problem immediately, which is exactly the same as many webmasters.

    Its mainly all focused on the technical side of building a website which is great if you want to just build websites. Now if you want to make money you need to learn how to make a website that makes money. Because making money requires a different set of skill sets that are far from technical.

    Selling products online is far different than most people imagine, once you learn this you shall be well on your way to success, but it doesn't happen overnight. No matter how good your site is.

    Best of luck

    Mr P
    Well I guess THAT, exactly is my problem. But I have good negotiation skills and can fluently sell products in the offline world. I just never got the perfect path to start venturing into online marketplaces.
    BUT, now that I have developed my technical skills, I'd like to step above the barrier

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    Hi seoguy,

    I think you and I are in the same boat. I have a very similar skill set that has been used by past employers and companies, however, I have never truly used this skill set for my own good. Ironic isn't it?

    One thing that I think is important is to try and sell/ make money off something that you actually enjoy and care about.

    When I'm not sitting behind a monitor all day I like to get lost in the woods and rough it a bit which also means that I like outdoor gear. Since I know how to create websites and market them I'd to try my hand at selling backpacking gear ect. The only problem is that I have so many interests!

    Hope this helps at least a little bit.

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    You can do all of the needed things, including SEO, yet you want to partner and get help? I find this very confusing. Yes, losing your AdSense account is tough. I lost mine after having one for about 6 years. I didn't do any fraud for send funny traffic to my sites, yet they one day decided my sites posed a "risk to advertisers". The lesson I learned and that all should consider, is that if you stated to depend on something for your income, it may go away and leave you with nothing someday. So be diversified with your revenue streams to avoid crying(I didn't cry as I have a consulting business, but I very much missed the monthly income from my 80 sites and blogs.)

    If you can do link building and SEO, then you can get traffic. You can write content so that also should generate traffic. You know about ClickBank, but should also use AdBrite or another ad network to generate income. my Clickbank doesn't work well at all, but I have not spent much time on using it.

    Here is my suggestion for a plan:

    Each week create a new blog. Use at least 2 hosting accounts in different parts of the country. create one post a day for each blog and in each post link to one of your affiliate offers, other sites, or other blogs. At least one link and up to 5 or 6. Try to find an image for each post. As you get more and more blogs, you can post less often on the older ones. If you have two blogs on the same type of subject, like hosting and domain names, post the same post to both blogs, BUT with a different title. Don't worry about spinning the body of the post. Test this and see how well it works. If one post seems to be ignored, then don't continue. But if both posts seem to do well, then keep doing it, but in a random manner. Don't always post the same posts to many sites, even with different titles. Never overdo anything and you should stay out of trouble.

    Use your blog network to help drive traffic to your affiliate and other sites. Consider using OpenX or another method to place different ads on your sites and blogs. It's a real pain to have many sites with certain ads only to have to go to all the sites and replace the ads because something happens. I still have sites and blogs with adsense code on them because I have not had the time to change them.

    Once you get the PageRank on your sites and blogs, consider selling links. Make your links part of your site or your content to avoid them being detected easily. If you avoid putting them all at the bottom of your site pages, no one can tell for sure if they are part of what you want to link to, or if they are paid links. Avoid link networks that have you place code on your site unless you are sure the code cannot be detected.

    I hope this helps. Good Luck!

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    Thank you, for that detailed layout. I'm thinking I'll have to start developing such a network soon
    I already have many unused domain names. Might be well worth to put them to use.

    I would like to know, can I develop xyz.com and xyz.net as different websites, without any possibility of being detected as those of same owner?

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    To get around your Adsense ban, found a business entity. Not sure what the laws are where you live, but something like an LLC. You can then get a bank account for your business and then have an Adsense account through that business entity.

    You can found an LLC relatively cheaply if you research it online. There are services to do it for you, or you can submit the paperwork yourself. It'll take you a couple days of research and work, but you'll be glad you have the business structure once it's created. From there, you can expense your business costs, and there are lots of other benefits that will come into play when you go to pay taxes and such.

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    I had my adsense banned too and pretty much in the same situation, although your skill set seems higher than mine.
    I would happily consider partnership on some projects.
    I used to do well selling affilaites clickbanks products. It took me a while to find good products that sell. I was mainly selling them through facebook advertising for $0.01 PPC. Things were great and I was making $400 to $500 per month on automatic doing nothing. Until Facebook decided that clickbank products were offensive and canceled my account (now clickbank hoplinks are blocked by facebook, even if you use a redirect!)
    I want to explore selling more products like that but directly, without going through PPC. So may be that's where we could meet. I bring months of research, you bring the traffic. Or something like that.

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    yvancg, could you just build a review site or something like that that contains link of your clickbank links?

    ---------- Post added 03-20-2012 at 03:01 AM ----------

    I meant *couldn't


 

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