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    Target the right keywords

    I guy, I'm new here so I'll try to ask something I hope you have the answer to.

    I'm planning to launch my first campaign in CPA marketing with an offer that pays $17 per lead with 1 page submit, I want to promote it through bum marketing such as articles principally.
    Here is my point, I don't understand keywords research and I know its the main important thing to succeed.

    So;

    - What are good keywords? Some guy said that I have to target long tail keywords, ok, but what about the competition? Is there 1 000 000+ pages related to this keyword should I use it? I say that because I see two point of view about this, some say that you should not, some say you should because you only compete with the first 10. I woud like a proper reply to this question please.

    - Also, how much keywords should i have to start? Is it 5,10+? Let's say I have 5 keywords, how much articles can i write with them? and how to do it.

    Thanks all
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    Something from both, you need to analyze top 10-20 websites and aslo consider how many competition you have, it is not the same if you have 10.000 or 10.000.000 in quotes/in title/in achors competitions.
    It is not easy to analyze if the keyword is profitable or not.
    There are many factors you need to include, if keyword gets fair amount of searches per day and have great ROI than I will go for it.
    I don't mind competition that much, after all competition makes you even better every time
    I go for most competitive search terms with very high search volumes.
    I use smaller competitive words for auto-blogs type of sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    Something from both, you need to analyze top 10-20 websites and aslo consider how many competition you have, it is not the same if you have 10.000 or 10.000.000 in quotes/in title/in achors competitions.
    It is not easy to analyze if the keyword is profitable or not.
    There are many factors you need to include, if keyword gets fair amount of searches per day and have great ROI than I will go for it.
    I don't mind competition that much, after all competition makes you even better every time
    I go for most competitive search terms with very high search volumes.
    I use smaller competitive words for auto-blogs type of sites.
    I'll give you an example. i have a kw that have 2400 searches per month and 1,150,000 results in google without quotes, and 2020 with quotes do you think its a good keyword?
    I understand you said its hard to analyse but how do you know if its profitable or not? though I do not have money to test through PPC, so any advice???

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayuyaa59 View Post
    I'll give you an example. i have a kw that have 2400 searches per month and 1,150,000 results in google without quotes, and 2020 with quotes do you think its a good keyword?
    I understand you said its hard to analyse but how do you know if its profitable or not? though I do not have money to test through PPC, so any advice???
    I go for keyword with 200.000 to 2.000.000 searches per month(exact match) and competition from 1.000.000 to 10.000.000 in quotes and 30.000.000 to 200.000.000 without quotes.
    So I will say that your keyword is very easy to got top 10 even number 1 spot on all SE.

    If the keyword is profitable or not is something you need to investigate.
    Let say that you will sell "car insurance" then you go to CJ, linkshare and see what EPC for that kind of products is, so you check all companies that are selling car insurance and calculate avarage EPC on 100 visitors(on some, these are default stats), if it is something about 30 or even 50 bucks than I will say that it is very profitable market. So you can expect about $20-50 from 100 targeted visitors.
    You can use other methods to figure out if this is a profitable keywords also, like adwords price for that keyword, etc...

    Also when using google keyword tool select exact match to get right numbers!

    ---------- Post added 11-22-2010 at 06:10 PM ----------

    I just like to add that I go for high competitive keywords for few reasons:
    - don't like to waist my time on low searched keywords
    - don't like to have many sites to manage
    - huge traffic
    - great amount of profit
    - can build many other(sub cats) keywords around my main keyword for great deep links and more profit
    - long term
    - building authority in that market
    - great experience in terms of SEO and IM

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    I will tell you now a secret...
    blogg about it, add the right
    TITLE + DESCRIPTION + KEYWORDS

    YOU COME TO GOOGLE SITE 1 EASILY
    BY USING THE RIGHT TITLE + DESCRIPTION + KEYWORDS

    Dont forget to Ping and Bookmark it...

    And you will get huge Traffic + EARN MUCH MONEY BY ADSENSE...

    TRUST ME. REAL TALK!


    You gonna learn how to find the right keywords... with google keyword tool! Then you gonna know how to work dat... Baby



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    Dont forget that I told you i will use BUM MARKETING to start because I do not have money to spend right no, even I dont have a domain name so I'll use blogger. I have to write about 5 articles per day if I can, thought I'm not english so it's bit hard but if you dont try you never know...

    So Nemanja you think it's not as hard as that to rank in google with such amount of competition ? It's my first campaignn, I've never did that before....

    Well I'll keep you informed about it ,and I hope I'll take action ASAP

    Also we need to consider the PR of the ten top sites.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayuyaa59 View Post
    Dont forget that I told you i will use BUM MARKETING to start because I do not have money to spend right no, even I dont have a domain name so I'll use blogger. I have to write about 5 articles per day if I can, thought I'm not english so it's bit hard but if you dont try you never know...

    So Nemanja you think it's not as hard as that to rank in google with such amount of competition ? It's my first campaignn, I've never did that before....

    Well I'll keep you informed about it ,and I hope I'll take action ASAP

    Also we need to consider the PR of the ten top sites.....
    What is bum marketing?
    For your first project use some moderate competition, not easy one, not hard one, just something in the middle, so you can learn along the way.
    If it easy to rank some keywords, then you will never learn how to get rankings for hard one and you will always earn pennies...
    After you have done that project and only doing conetent and maintenance focus on some hard keywords but before do some major research and implement some new ideas in that market and how you will monetize your niche.

    Don't worry about PR of others and your website, focus on keyword research content and backlinks.

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    BUM marketing = free traffic methods such as, articles, videos etc...

    Can you tell me how much keywords should I have to start?

    I'll promote CPA offers converts on first page with an average of 0.78 epc and 17$ per conversion, not so bad !
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayuyaa59 View Post
    BUM marketing = free traffic methods such as, articles, videos etc...

    Can you tell me how much keywords should I have to start?

    I'll promote CPA offers converts on first page with an average of 0.78 epc and 17$ per conversion, not so bad !

    You can start by one main keyword, something like:
    "BMW Dealers"

    Then you can use other variations of that keywords:
    like :
    "BMW Dealers Los Angeles"
    "BMW Dealers Las vegas"
    "BMW Dealers California"
    "BMW Dealers New York"
    "BMW Dealers Boston"
    etc..

    Also you can use :
    "BMW used cars"
    "BMW new cars"

    As many as you have the better.

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    Okay you use Blogger... dont forget that Anupviews

    Hack Tutors

    also use blogger.com

    and he have many traffic! Good Alexa rank..


    But you need to own a domain.. cost only 10$...

    dont use your-name.blogspot.com
    this sux...

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    I will own my domain once I get enough money to afford it. I could do it but I prefer to start like this in order to understand how the whole thing work

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayuyaa59 View Post
    BUM marketing = free traffic methods such as, articles, videos etc...

    Can you tell me how much keywords should I have to start?

    I'll promote CPA offers converts on first page with an average of 0.78 epc and 17$ per conversion, not so bad !
    What do you mean?

    How much keywords?

    Do you mean.. how much keywords in your META Tags???

    You should use only 10 keywords!


    watch all good ranking SEO Blogs and watch the META Tags in the source code of them.
    I bet all blogs only use 10 keywords!

    And better is to use 2 words keyword like:

    Wrong: dog, cat, bunny, bird, shit

    Right: dog shit, cat shit, bird shit


    other Example

    Wrong: how, to, earn, easy, money, on, the, web,

    Right: how to, earn easy, web money, earn money
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    I think he ment how many keyword he needs to find/target per blog/website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayuyaa59 View Post
    I will own my domain once I get enough money to afford it. I could do it but I prefer to start like this in order to understand how the whole thing work
    omg... u kidding me? 10$??? You will buy when you earn enough money???

    give me your paypal (email) I send you 10$ looool (no joke)

    AND BUY A DOMAIN AT GODADDY.COM!!!

    BUT IF I BUY YOU A DOMAIN U MUST BACKLINK TO MY BLOG! (-_-)

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    I mean which keywords should I target, since I'll write articles, I saw in several posts that we need at least 5-10 keywords to write topics about it.

    So i'll target those keywords and start writing then redirecting them to my blog and hoping for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayuyaa59 View Post
    I mean which keywords should I target, since I'll write articles, I saw in several posts that we need at least 5-10 keywords to write topics about it.

    So i'll target those keywords and start writing then redirecting them to my blog and hoping for the best.
    I think you should read a little bit more about SEO & IM before you start your blogging journey!

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    I think you should target the keyword which have more competitions and more density. The keyword having less compositions may not benefits you. Are you planning to use the splash widget something like they lock the content of your blog? If yes then Blogger may ban you.
    Hello there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seobunny View Post
    omg... u kidding me? 10$??? You will buy when you earn enough money???

    give me your paypal (email) I send you 10$ looool (no joke)

    AND BUY A DOMAIN AT GODADDY.COM!!!

    BUT IF I BUY YOU A DOMAIN U MUST BACKLINK TO MY BLOG! (-_-)
    OK send me 10$ hahaha!! I do not earn 2000-3000 euros each months like yoiu, I have only 400€ per months!

    ---------- Post added 11-23-2010 at 11:08 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by anupviews View Post
    I think you should target the keyword which have more competitions and more density. The keyword having less compositions may not benefits you. Are you planning to use the splash widget something like they lock the content of your blog? If yes then Blogger may ban you.
    Hi, no i'm not going to use locker content, I just build a page with some infos, just to redirect the clients to my offer, so guy I'll try an I'll see what happen next week.....

    ---------- Post added 11-23-2010 at 11:09 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    I think you should read a little bit more about SEO & IM before you start your blogging journey!
    That is why I'm here ! But my main goal is not blogging, its article marketing
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