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    It's still all about links and making them count.

    I found two interesting blogs from Jonathan Ledger. One focuses on making the links you build count and the other (which links into the second) is about how links are still a huge ranking factor in google's algo's.

    Just because a page exists on the web doesn't mean that Google will automatically add the page to their index. For sites that are very popular, and have a huge number of incoming links, it's a safe bet that any pages you have on those sites are being indexed and your links counted.
    Through all of the updates, the May Days, the Farmers, the Pandas and on and on, many of the sites I have built -- and other sites that I monitor -- continue to rank well for their keywords.
    That's because, despite everything you may have heard, and everything Google would like you to think, ranking in Google is still all about the links.
    You can read the two posts here: James Ledger and here James ledger blog.

    Maybe it will help calm a few fears about all the changes Google are making, and give us all some good advice on how to make the perfect back link. Any thoughts? read through the posts and tell me what you think.
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    Hello Phoenyx.
    This is the one that struck me most on his 1st article.
    You see, just because a page exists on the web doesn't mean that Google will automatically add the page to their index. For sites that are very popular, and have a huge number of incoming links, it's a safe bet that any pages you have on those sites are being indexed and your links counted. This is true for major article directories like EzineArticles and ArticlesBase.
    Very true. But i have to disagree a little about ArticleBase since ArticleBase links are all nofollow so they don’t count either.

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    hmm, true, but some experts do say that you need a good balance between dofollow and nofollow. Google still picks the link up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    hmm, true, but some experts do say that you need a good balance between dofollow and nofollow. Google still picks the link up.
    Having lots of dofollow links and very few nofollow links will consider as spamming by Google. You need to have balance between them and a good formula is 80/20 rule. 80% DoFollow and 20% NoFollow from higher PR blogs/sites.

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    It's the way i see things as well. A link is a link. Bots will pick up on them and they will all work for your site instead of against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    It's the way i see things as well. A link is a link. Bots will pick up on them and they will all work for your site instead of against it.
    But a link will not work if it is not from related site rather it will decrease your site's authority in Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idreesfarooq View Post
    But a link will not work if it is not from related site rather it will decrease your site's authority in Google.
    That's a given. But I still like to believe that there is more than just link juice involved in IM and SEO. You think about aspects like building trust, company reputation.. Things like that are excellent in your niche, but at the same time can help you even if its not in your niche. People would like to know who you are, if they see that you are a genuine person and willing to help and have an outstanding product that can actually benefit them, it benefits you in the end as well.
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