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    SEO Will Not Work If?

    Belive me, Your onsite and offsite SEO Will not work if

    1. You are Too Impatien
    2. You hire some Cheap SEO Services
    3. You Didn’t Do Your Research
    4. You Tried Batting Out of Your League
    5. You Didn’t Do Onsite Optimization
    6. You Didn’t Build Links
    7. You Built Crappy Links
    8. You Stuffed Links
    9. You Bought Links
    10. You Had No Social Links

    Don't do anything silly while doing your SEO. It will be better to get suggession to post your issues here at IMTalk This will save you a lot of $$$$$$

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    And take enough time to do these all steps. Its also very important

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    Quote Originally Posted by rain22 View Post
    And take enough time to do these all steps. Its also very important
    Yeah you are very right. Time is money

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    Quote Originally Posted by idreesfarooq View Post
    Yeah you are very right. Time is money
    There has never been a more true statement than that. The hardest thing about that is to convince the person you're working for or providing services for, is that it seriously takes time to set up a successful IM strategy. You have to take time to build company rep, you have to take time to make sure you are backlinking from reputable sites and not sites that would likely get you into trouble, you have to make sure that your site is optimized not only for search engines, but for the visitors themselves, and that alone could take a while to iron out the kinks in any design, be it graphic or content. You'd be amazed how a few small words can enhance your bounce rate. You have to be less of a snake oil sales man, and more along the lines of " I am here, it's not just a site to create money, You will be provided with the best service, you just need to give me a chance." being open and honest is the best way to work with clients, but even then, you still have to be careful not to say the wrong things that can cause you to start from scratch again.
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    Yeah right!!! useful ..... especially for new bies!!!

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    Yeah that's really true.. Initially right from registering a domain you need to complete your research on keyword, and what market you need, theme selection, Onsite SEO and the Off-Site SEO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seopro View Post
    Yeah that's really true.. Initially right from registering a domain you need to complete your research on keyword, and what market you need, theme selection, Onsite SEO and the Off-Site SEO.
    It would be a better idea to have the keyword research done before buying your domain IMO, that way when you buy the domain, you can make sure it has your niche keywords in the domain name. Its not easy to do, that much I know but that's why it could also be a great idea to have more than one primary keyword option, so you have something to fall back on when deciding which domain to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seopro View Post
    Yeah that's really true.. Initially right from registering a domain you need to complete your research on keyword, and what market you need, theme selection, Onsite SEO and the Off-Site SEO.
    I prefer domains without keywords !! As I know its also works fine. Some domains with long tail keywords looks even spammy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rain22 View Post
    I prefer domains without keywords !! As I know its also works fine. Some domains with long tail keywords looks even spammy
    very true, but it also depends on the person in control of it. The company I work with does not have a domain name registered with keywords in it, and most days I find myself working to market both at the same time ( when looking at backlinking etc.) and truth be told it works well either way. A lot of IM's believe that having keywords in your domain are a good idea, but they don't tell people to make sure that you don't go overboard.
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    Even if you build crappy links if you build lots of links then it works. I think Google finally had to admit this. So now they are focusing on content than back links like in old days.

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    very rightly said. Even i have heard that Google is now going to remove dofollow tag on a link and considering every link as a link just other search engines like Yahoo does. Maybe in next turn, Google give more value to unique and valuable content over high pr backlink.

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    While ago there were rumors about Google plans to discontinue Google Page Rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    very true, but it also depends on the person in control of it. The company I work with does not have a domain name registered with keywords in it, and most days I find myself working to market both at the same time ( when looking at backlinking etc.) and truth be told it works well either way. A lot of IM's believe that having keywords in your domain are a good idea, but they don't tell people to make sure that you don't go overboard.
    for me some brandable domain names (not too long) looks better. domains like makemoneyonlineathome.com looks stupid and spammy for me

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    It's just a parked domain and I didn't see it in the first three pages, but if the owner put up a blog with even minimal content he would probably have something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wink0r View Post
    It's just a parked domain and I didn't see it in the first three pages, but if the owner put up a blog with even minimal content he would probably have something.
    I think now this strategy must be reviewed by IMT's as recent changes by Google Panda Algorithms may consider those sites as spam having keywords in their Domain Name. Who knows?

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    I doubt that Google will have a specific problem with keyword domains. There were plenty of keyword domains in the search results, but the few that I looked at all had something in the way of a site behind them. I do think that Google will do its best not to show parked domains in the search results. I think that most of the traffic to these parked keyword domains will be from type-ins, but that has always been the reason behind keyword parked domains anyway.

    I think that the name was just one that rain came up with off the top of his head as an example. I was curious to see if there really was such a site. FF 4 makes this very easy with the context menu, just highlight the domain name and I usually choose 'open in new tab' from the context menu.

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    SEO will not work if you didn't done proper keyword research and if you don't work hard enough or if you are not persistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    SEO will not work if you didn't done proper keyword research and if you don't work hard enough or if you are not persistent.
    That's one of the most important ones I think. Many people are discouraged when their strategy doesn't work in the beginning and decide not to continue and lose a great deal. SEO should be consistent, and adaptable. That is one of the first lessons I was taught, and still today I find myself re-optimizing a site adding in more keywords and removing ones that don't perform well enough.
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    Hi,

    Thanks for this post...!

    Really we need all things require to proper optimization.

    On page is more important first then do off page optimization for your website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berkleyhuk View Post
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    Thanks for this post...!

    Really we need all things require to proper optimization.

    On page is more important first then do off page optimization for your website.
    The two work hand in hand. You could do either as a stand alone campaign, but it will not give you the best results. I learned that the hard way a long time ago, when I knew basically nothing about SEO and IM. its a long winding road, but the reward at the end are limitless.
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